Clive and the rest.., there seems to be quite a variety of these 12" wolleys Here for your historical interest is a 12" wolley in a betax but without defocus contol http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1379638669 and another with defocus, but in barrel.. looks very nice! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1377896788